Post by BIGKEV on Jan 22, 2007 20:34:48 GMT -5
What’s all this I’m hearing about someone biting it during Civil War or something some such? Hmmm… Character death is attention grabbing, that’s for sure; but who would the powers-that-be at Marvel kill off (aside from my spies)? Captain America? Iron Man? Reed Richards? Surely not them, right? Those are some big names. Or perhaps we will see a big change in one or two of them…
Anyhow some confusion over a death happening in Civil War #7, like one wasn’t going to happen (as if supposedly it was never said). Then a cold chill came over the room where this was heard: “Hmmm… THAT would drive people crazy, since Death comes in the most unexpected places and times…”
Huhm. What is “THAT”, exactly? Some will probably want to take into account the blood-covered Cap-shield that adorns the cover of Civil War: Confession…
What does it all mean?
Here’s my fave crazy sounding theory (which is considered as fact by the author), yoinked from a completely trustworthy source
(i.e. Amazon.com review comments… What? They’re NOT trustworthy? The heck you say!). The following quote is unedited for posterity
This book reveals the secret history of Iron Man. I cant reveal how I got it because it may cost me my job (and no, I dont work for Marvel)
Spoilers ahead
We learn that Tony stark was never in the iron man suit!! From the beginning Steve Rogers was Iron MAN and Stark was just the public image/persona. Rogers was never frozen after WW2, It turns out that was his clone, part of the super soldier program (I guess they had cloning tech back in the 40s).
I'm guessing Stark and the Real Steve Rogers will reveal this to the cloned Rogers at the end of CW.
Whoever OKed this stupid retconn should be fired. The art was pretty good though, Zircher does classic superheroes right.
I love it, just so.....kitch!
Ronin Who?
Now, some folks have been saying that Cap is the new Ronin. Some say it might be Iron Man. My guess? It’s neither. How about Hawkeye? No, no, not the new Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), but Clint Barton! Remember what Bendis said elsewhere regarding the new Ronin: It won’t be who we expect (like Captain America), “it’s someone with a long history in the Marvel Universe”, and “has a history of donning a guise that best suits his or her mental mode”. So, yeah, why not good ‘ol Hawkeye? Makes sense to me. Oh, yes, and I base this on more than just some educated guesses by diligent forum-posters…
(This is the part where I wink conspiratorially)
If one keeps in mind that the new Ronin is the old Hawkeye, then what happens to Steve Rogers and Tony Stark? Speculation runs rampant (much to Marvel’s delight) and I’ve even heard that it’s not U.S. Agent on the cover of Omega Flight #1, but Cap himself! What about that one, eh? Ahhh… rumour. Gotta love it.
(Do I believe this? I’m taking a “wait and see” approach. It would be pretty cool, though.)
Ffollowing a crumb about Spidey with the black costume: The sniper seen in Amazing Spider-Man #537 WILL pull the trigger in #538.
The Eternals; specifically #7. As #6 ended up being double-sized, #7 was a surprise edition and was not factored into scheduling. #7 is finished being pencilled and will come out February 28th, only one month late. Say what ye will about Marvel’s lateness lately (I think it’s irritated just about everyone), but #6 being the size of two issues it’s like getting 3 issues in two months. That’s not so bad, right? More information on what is to come with The Eternals is sketchy at best, but I can say that the Eternals mini sets them up for a solid place in the Marvel Universe tapestry and they will be used…
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I understand Mike Marts has just signed Jim Calafiore as a DC exclusive creator.
I also understand that when Marts moved from Marvel to DC, a rather large percentage of creators he was working with at Marvel were suddenly have very favourable terms arranged to stop them from moving…
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Rob Liefeld's schedules reminds me of Douglas Adams' comment about loving deadlines - "I love the noise they make as they whoosh past." Every book this century seems to have been late, whether that be weeks and months late on "X-Force" and "Teen Titans," or years on "Youngblood Bloodsport" (which, reportedly complete, was originally planned for 2002, but recently resolicited from mid-2004's solicitation to ship in November 2006 - it didn't.)
So the news Rob has been working on the "Onslaught Reborn" series with Jeph Loeb set certain people's stopwatches ticking. Especially since it was meant to be a weekly five issue mini series, shipping in November. Well that soon changed.
Rob started work on the project in March 2006 and previewed pages at the end of that month. In mid-September, he stated he had finished issue #2, but then in October stated he was still working on the issue in question, trying to solve problems with one particular spread. The book was clearly now going to be a monthly. When the first issue shipped late November, Rob stated he was working on the third issue - which conflicted with earlier interviews when he guaranteed he'd have finished the third issue by that point and also guaranteed a monthly schedule.
Issue 3's original shipping date of January 17th first slipped to January 31st but has now slipped to February 14th.
Onslaught #4's published schedule has slipped from February 21st to March 7th but #5 is still at 28th March. Hmmm.
Still, Rob's had more comics published of late than his old "Heroes Reborn" partner Jim Lee. Right now, "All Star Batman And Robin The Boy Wonder" (I love typing that all out every time) is an annual.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$YYup, it's a fake on Marvel's part, the Iron Rogers thing.
The timing does indicate that Marvel has engineered a diversion away from the original rumour, and it would fit their PR pattern. Certainly artwork from "Mighty Avengers" seems to show a post-CW Tony Stark in the Iron Man suit. But nothing post-CW for Steve Rogers or Captain America yet. Although odds are one of them will be the new Ronin.
Head spinning yet?
Of course, Mark Millar is on record stating that neither Iron Man nor Captain America will die. But he didn't say that Steve Rogers or Tony Stark wouldn't die did he? Ahhh.... And the ending of the series was formalised after a writers summit discussion with Joss Whedon - a man who has made a habit out of killing off lead characters in his TV series, "Buffy," "Angel" and "Firefly."
But Marvel also have a long history of hinting something very strongly and obviously before then pulling the rug from under the readers' feet.
So, looks they'll just kill Nick Fury again.
Last year, Marvel published the "Amazing Fantasy" series. It died a respectable death. But, in a quirk of fate, issue #15 lives on. The original "Amazing Fantasy" #15 in 1961 featured the first appearance of Spider-Man. Well, the new "Amazing Fantasy" #15 featured the character "Mastermind Excello," who is now instrumental in the upcoming World War Hulk.
Man your eBay stations…
Anyhow some confusion over a death happening in Civil War #7, like one wasn’t going to happen (as if supposedly it was never said). Then a cold chill came over the room where this was heard: “Hmmm… THAT would drive people crazy, since Death comes in the most unexpected places and times…”
Huhm. What is “THAT”, exactly? Some will probably want to take into account the blood-covered Cap-shield that adorns the cover of Civil War: Confession…
What does it all mean?
Here’s my fave crazy sounding theory (which is considered as fact by the author), yoinked from a completely trustworthy source
(i.e. Amazon.com review comments… What? They’re NOT trustworthy? The heck you say!). The following quote is unedited for posterity
This book reveals the secret history of Iron Man. I cant reveal how I got it because it may cost me my job (and no, I dont work for Marvel)
Spoilers ahead
We learn that Tony stark was never in the iron man suit!! From the beginning Steve Rogers was Iron MAN and Stark was just the public image/persona. Rogers was never frozen after WW2, It turns out that was his clone, part of the super soldier program (I guess they had cloning tech back in the 40s).
I'm guessing Stark and the Real Steve Rogers will reveal this to the cloned Rogers at the end of CW.
Whoever OKed this stupid retconn should be fired. The art was pretty good though, Zircher does classic superheroes right.
I love it, just so.....kitch!
Ronin Who?
Now, some folks have been saying that Cap is the new Ronin. Some say it might be Iron Man. My guess? It’s neither. How about Hawkeye? No, no, not the new Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), but Clint Barton! Remember what Bendis said elsewhere regarding the new Ronin: It won’t be who we expect (like Captain America), “it’s someone with a long history in the Marvel Universe”, and “has a history of donning a guise that best suits his or her mental mode”. So, yeah, why not good ‘ol Hawkeye? Makes sense to me. Oh, yes, and I base this on more than just some educated guesses by diligent forum-posters…
(This is the part where I wink conspiratorially)
If one keeps in mind that the new Ronin is the old Hawkeye, then what happens to Steve Rogers and Tony Stark? Speculation runs rampant (much to Marvel’s delight) and I’ve even heard that it’s not U.S. Agent on the cover of Omega Flight #1, but Cap himself! What about that one, eh? Ahhh… rumour. Gotta love it.
(Do I believe this? I’m taking a “wait and see” approach. It would be pretty cool, though.)
Ffollowing a crumb about Spidey with the black costume: The sniper seen in Amazing Spider-Man #537 WILL pull the trigger in #538.
The Eternals; specifically #7. As #6 ended up being double-sized, #7 was a surprise edition and was not factored into scheduling. #7 is finished being pencilled and will come out February 28th, only one month late. Say what ye will about Marvel’s lateness lately (I think it’s irritated just about everyone), but #6 being the size of two issues it’s like getting 3 issues in two months. That’s not so bad, right? More information on what is to come with The Eternals is sketchy at best, but I can say that the Eternals mini sets them up for a solid place in the Marvel Universe tapestry and they will be used…
#####################################################
I understand Mike Marts has just signed Jim Calafiore as a DC exclusive creator.
I also understand that when Marts moved from Marvel to DC, a rather large percentage of creators he was working with at Marvel were suddenly have very favourable terms arranged to stop them from moving…
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Rob Liefeld's schedules reminds me of Douglas Adams' comment about loving deadlines - "I love the noise they make as they whoosh past." Every book this century seems to have been late, whether that be weeks and months late on "X-Force" and "Teen Titans," or years on "Youngblood Bloodsport" (which, reportedly complete, was originally planned for 2002, but recently resolicited from mid-2004's solicitation to ship in November 2006 - it didn't.)
So the news Rob has been working on the "Onslaught Reborn" series with Jeph Loeb set certain people's stopwatches ticking. Especially since it was meant to be a weekly five issue mini series, shipping in November. Well that soon changed.
Rob started work on the project in March 2006 and previewed pages at the end of that month. In mid-September, he stated he had finished issue #2, but then in October stated he was still working on the issue in question, trying to solve problems with one particular spread. The book was clearly now going to be a monthly. When the first issue shipped late November, Rob stated he was working on the third issue - which conflicted with earlier interviews when he guaranteed he'd have finished the third issue by that point and also guaranteed a monthly schedule.
Issue 3's original shipping date of January 17th first slipped to January 31st but has now slipped to February 14th.
Onslaught #4's published schedule has slipped from February 21st to March 7th but #5 is still at 28th March. Hmmm.
Still, Rob's had more comics published of late than his old "Heroes Reborn" partner Jim Lee. Right now, "All Star Batman And Robin The Boy Wonder" (I love typing that all out every time) is an annual.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$YYup, it's a fake on Marvel's part, the Iron Rogers thing.
The timing does indicate that Marvel has engineered a diversion away from the original rumour, and it would fit their PR pattern. Certainly artwork from "Mighty Avengers" seems to show a post-CW Tony Stark in the Iron Man suit. But nothing post-CW for Steve Rogers or Captain America yet. Although odds are one of them will be the new Ronin.
Head spinning yet?
Of course, Mark Millar is on record stating that neither Iron Man nor Captain America will die. But he didn't say that Steve Rogers or Tony Stark wouldn't die did he? Ahhh.... And the ending of the series was formalised after a writers summit discussion with Joss Whedon - a man who has made a habit out of killing off lead characters in his TV series, "Buffy," "Angel" and "Firefly."
But Marvel also have a long history of hinting something very strongly and obviously before then pulling the rug from under the readers' feet.
So, looks they'll just kill Nick Fury again.
Last year, Marvel published the "Amazing Fantasy" series. It died a respectable death. But, in a quirk of fate, issue #15 lives on. The original "Amazing Fantasy" #15 in 1961 featured the first appearance of Spider-Man. Well, the new "Amazing Fantasy" #15 featured the character "Mastermind Excello," who is now instrumental in the upcoming World War Hulk.
Man your eBay stations…
